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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #855 on: August 09, 2016, 02:33:36 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.


La Stella has no leverage. If he doesn't play, then the Cubs have a flaw (They wouldn't have a left-handed pinch-hitter that could actually hit) but Joe Maddon seems to be creative enough to get around that problem.

I think the Cubs erred in demoting La Stella in favor of Coghlan, but at this point enough is enough. La Stella needs to report, and the sooner the better for everyone involved. And, especially, Tommy La Stella.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #856 on: August 09, 2016, 02:40:58 PM »
Quote from: BC on August 09, 2016, 02:33:36 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.


La Stella has no leverage. If he doesn't play, then the Cubs have a flaw (They wouldn't have a left-handed pinch-hitter that could actually hit) but Joe Maddon seems to be creative enough to get around that problem.

I think the Cubs erred in demoting La Stella in favor of Coghlan, but at this point enough is enough. La Stella needs to report, and the sooner the better for everyone involved. And, especially, Tommy La Stella.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #857 on: August 09, 2016, 02:42:52 PM »
The Cubs apparently made a stupid decision.

La Stella is making a stupid decision.

The Cubs didn't play yesterday and everyone here is champing at the bit.

7:05 p.m. Central Time can't come soon enough.
This is a good thing.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #858 on: August 09, 2016, 02:57:47 PM »
At this point, I'm kinda thinking the awesome thing to do would be to DFA Coghlan and then very pointedly call up Al Al. Or Jeimer.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #859 on: August 09, 2016, 03:01:58 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM


To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.

1. In no way is defending The Cubs in this move anywhere near antithetical to chiding LaStella.  LaStella is being incredibly short-sided.  He's spiting his face by cutting off his nose.
2. LaStella's beef should be with the CBA not with the Cubs.
3. LaStella very clearly has negative leverage.  As long as he's being petulant, The Cubs don't have to do shit.  In fact, they don't even have to pay him as long as he doesn't report.  In fact, as I see it, The Cubs are being overly accommodating.  They could have told him to get bent days ago. I'm pretty sure they can just suspend him as long as he doesn't report and free up a spot on the 40-man.

#TEAMCOGS

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #860 on: August 09, 2016, 03:02:43 PM »
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on August 09, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
At this point, I'm kinda thinking the awesome thing to do would be to DFA Coghlan and then very pointedly call up Al Al. Or Jeimer.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #861 on: August 09, 2016, 03:05:37 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM


To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.

1. In no way is defending The Cubs in this move anywhere near antithetical to chiding LaStella.  LaStella is being incredibly short-sided.  He's spiting his face by cutting off his nose.
2. LaStella's beef should be with the CBA not with the Cubs.
3. LaStella very clearly has negative leverage.  As long as he's being petulant, The Cubs don't have to do shit.  In fact, they don't even have to pay him as long as he doesn't report.  In fact, as I see it, The Cubs are being overly accommodating.  They could have told him to get bent days ago. I'm pretty sure they can just suspend him as long as he doesn't report and free up a spot on the 40-man.

#TEAMCOGS

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #862 on: August 09, 2016, 03:07:10 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM


To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.

1. In no way is defending The Cubs in this move anywhere near antithetical to chiding LaStella.  LaStella is being incredibly short-sided.  He's spiting his face by cutting off his nose.
2. LaStella's beef should be with the CBA not with the Cubs.
3. LaStella very clearly has negative leverage.  As long as he's being petulant, The Cubs don't have to do shit.  In fact, they don't even have to pay him as long as he doesn't report.  In fact, as I see it, The Cubs are being overly accommodating.  They could have told him to get bent days ago. I'm pretty sure they can just suspend him as long as he doesn't report and free up a spot on the 40-man.

#TEAMCOGS

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #863 on: August 09, 2016, 03:15:19 PM »
Quote from: morpheus on August 09, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM


To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.

1. In no way is defending The Cubs in this move anywhere near antithetical to chiding LaStella.  LaStella is being incredibly short-sided.  He's spiting his face by cutting off his nose.
2. LaStella's beef should be with the CBA not with the Cubs.
3. LaStella very clearly has negative leverage.  As long as he's being petulant, The Cubs don't have to do shit.  In fact, they don't even have to pay him as long as he doesn't report.  In fact, as I see it, The Cubs are being overly accommodating.  They could have told him to get bent days ago. I'm pretty sure they can just suspend him as long as he doesn't report and free up a spot on the 40-man.

#TEAMCOGS

Heh.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #864 on: August 09, 2016, 03:31:08 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: morpheus on August 09, 2016, 03:07:10 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 03:01:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:06:00 PM


To make it clear I 100% think this is a really fucking stupid thing for La Stella to do, and he way overestimates his leverage (which is basically nonexistent, as you pointed out), I just think it's fair to acknowledge that he got jobbed and his anger was understandable, and that I also think it is hypocritical for people who will defend the Cubs making this move by saying "it's a business" to then chide La Stella for not putting the team first and just doing what he's told. He's part of the business, he can strike, and then eventually Theo will call in the Pinkertons and beat the living hell out of him.

1. In no way is defending The Cubs in this move anywhere near antithetical to chiding LaStella.  LaStella is being incredibly short-sided.  He's spiting his face by cutting off his nose.
2. LaStella's beef should be with the CBA not with the Cubs.
3. LaStella very clearly has negative leverage.  As long as he's being petulant, The Cubs don't have to do shit.  In fact, they don't even have to pay him as long as he doesn't report.  In fact, as I see it, The Cubs are being overly accommodating.  They could have told him to get bent days ago. I'm pretty sure they can just suspend him as long as he doesn't report and free up a spot on the 40-man.

#TEAMCOGS

Heh.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #865 on: August 09, 2016, 03:33:59 PM »
Quote from: LaStella's Beef on August 09, 2016, 02:57:47 PM
At this point, I'm kinda thinking the awesome thing to do would be to DFA Coghlan and then very pointedly call up Al Al. Or Jeimer.

That would be fun, but on a practical level, Almora doesn't really replace LaStella and as much as I like Jeimer's upside, LaStella is a better option today.

I agree though it'd be quite a brass ballsy thing to do--the kind of dispassionate, heartless move that championship teams aren't afraid to make.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #866 on: August 09, 2016, 03:34:11 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 09, 2016, 02:19:46 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
I'm so shocked y'all needed only the faintest pretext to tolerate Chris Coghlan's bullshit again. This place used to stand for things. Candy asses.

You are Desipio's John Lackey.

Don't forget to breathe from your nose.

I AM VERY UPSET ABOUT HOW STARTLINGLY ACCURATE THIS PROBABLY IS

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #867 on: August 09, 2016, 03:35:08 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on August 09, 2016, 02:01:32 PM
I'm just going to go ahead and root for Cogs now.  He's my new favorite 25th man on the roster.
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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #868 on: August 09, 2016, 03:53:32 PM »
Quote from: Canadouche on August 09, 2016, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:21:05 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 09, 2016, 02:19:46 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 09, 2016, 02:17:55 PM
I'm so shocked y'all needed only the faintest pretext to tolerate Chris Coghlan's bullshit again. This place used to stand for things. Candy asses.

You are Desipio's John Lackey.

Don't forget to breathe from your nose.

I AM VERY UPSET ABOUT HOW STARTLINGLY ACCURATE THIS PROBABLY IS

It's ok -- I'm pretty sure I'm the Chris Coghlan.

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Re: The 2016 Cubs: SPLOOGE SPLOOGE SPLOOGE
« Reply #869 on: August 09, 2016, 04:01:49 PM »
I'm the Matt Szczur