John Lackey's Blazing Horse House Inferno

[Quality Start Machine]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

He threw his mask, his mask hit the ump. That's automatic.

[flannj]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

[flannj]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

He threw his mask, his mask hit the ump. That's automatic.

And yes, his equipment hit the ump. He's ejected.
Still doesn't mean I'm not pissed.

[SKO]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

He threw his mask, his mask hit the ump. That's automatic.

Watch the replay again, Grandpa. He throws the mask AFTER he is ejected. He is turning away from the ump when he gets tossed.

[Saul Goodman]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

[flannj]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

Nice freeze frame.
I'll say it again, empirical evidence much?

[Saul Goodman]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

Nice freeze frame.
I'll say it again, empirical evidence much?

Okay, so ... I don't know what you want here, exactly, except to defend John Fucking Lackey. We're taking about one specific pitch. You want me to mathematically prove my opinion that that pitch was easy to hit, for some reason. And apparently evidence acquired by observation no longer counts as empirical evidence, so, I'll just have Lackey stick around and throw that same pitch to the entire Cardinals lineup and report back on how many guys hit it out. Cool?

[flannj]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

Nice freeze frame.
I'll say it again, empirical evidence much?

Okay, so ... I don't know what you want here, exactly, except to defend John Fucking Lackey. We're taking about one specific pitch. You want me to mathematically prove my opinion that that pitch was easy to hit, for some reason. And apparently evidence acquired by observation no longer counts as empirical evidence, so, I'll just have Lackey stick around and throw that same pitch to the entire Cardinals lineup and report back on how many guys hit it out. Cool?

The observation would have to be accurate. A pitched baseball is thrown in three dimensions not two.
Your photographic presentation of that pitch is incomplete and flawed.

Not even getting into

that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall

[Wheezer]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

Empirical evidence much?

Nice freeze frame.
I'll say it again, empirical evidence much?

Okay, so ... I don't know what you want here, exactly, except to defend John Fucking Lackey. We're taking about one specific pitch. You want me to mathematically prove my opinion that that pitch was easy to hit, for some reason. And apparently evidence acquired by observation no longer counts as empirical evidence, so, I'll just have Lackey stick around and throw that same pitch to the entire Cardinals lineup and report back on how many guys hit it out. Cool?

"No longer"? Random person's anecdata engrams?

In other news, I missed the whole thing because I was trying to start socializing some really scared rescue street kittens while there's still a window of opportunity, so there.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

John Lackey... he's bad

One hit, one run in three innings. Don't go all SKO on us here.

That was after the home run, which ol' John leads the league in allowing by the way, because he is in fact bad. Don't you judge me.

The old bastard has humiliated me the last several times I've bumped this thread following a first inning run because he almost always settles down afterwards. You gotta wait for that 4th run to cross before you get real cranky.

Anyone defending him now? He just fucked the bullpen, fucked Contreras, and fucked the score with his crybaby bullshit. I don't care if the umpire blew it. Do your damn job.

No I would have gone absolutely as apeshit as John did there and I don't blame him. He had to fucking throw it down the middle, too, when the ump won't give you THAT pitch. Fuck umpires.

That was twice.
Fuck that ump.
Ejection during a play?

I need to calm down. God damnit.

There's zero, fucking zero justification for ejecting Willson either. Dude was calming down, it was over, THEN ump tosses him.

I don't think he *had* to throw a meatball hanging breaking ball that anyone else but the pitcher would have hit over the wall.

You know, that thought had briefly coursed through my mind, too, but I'm going to let it go. Lackey must've come to the realization at the break that his season will end 10/1 unless he can finally prove, after a year-and-a-half, that he deserves to be on the postseason roster because he's pitched like it since then  Going into the game yesterday, a balls start probably would have made him a 100% lock and that's probably what he was thinking.  Yesterday was a huge matchup against their ace and he had effectively taken his club into the 6th inning tied vs. said ace.  He stepped up and did what was needed for the team and himself and he got needlessly fucked by an Ump Show who felt he should squeeze Lackey with the pitcher up and just waste everyone's time.  Fuck that umpire.

[Saul Goodman]

As I was saying, John Lackey sucks.

[Canadouche]

You know, at this point, Lackey has a better WHIP and WAR than Lester?

[SKO]

You know, at this point, Lackey has a better WHIP and WAR than Lester?

Not about what Lester has done this year while clearly hurt for most if not all of the season. If he can get to 100% Lester by NLDS G4 you take him over 100% Lackey every time.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

You know, at this point, Lackey has a better WHIP and WAR than Lester?

Not about what Lester has done this year while clearly hurt for most if not all of the season. If he can get to 100% Lester by NLDS G4 you take him over 100% Lackey every time.

This shouldn't even need to be said.

At one point Lackey may have given food for thought to supplanting Quintana but in the last 3 weeks the latter has closed the book on that discussion. Lackey has likely pitched his way onto the playoff roster, which I'd have found unthinkable back in June--and that's far as this goes: emergency multi-inning guy. 

[Canadouche]

You know, at this point, Lackey has a better WHIP and WAR than Lester?

Not about what Lester has done this year while clearly hurt for most if not all of the season. If he can get to 100% Lester by NLDS G4 you take him over 100% Lackey every time.

This shouldn't even need to be said.

At one point Lackey may have given food for thought to supplanting Quintana but in the last 3 weeks the latter has closed the book on that discussion. Lackey has likely pitched his way onto the playoff roster, which I'd have found unthinkable back in June--and that's far as this goes: emergency multi-inning guy. 

In the second half, Lackey has a 1.25 WHIP, and a 3.88 ERA. Lester: 5.11 ERA, 1.35 WHIP. Teams are batting .321 against him in September. I'm certainly not advocating for Teeth to supplant Lester in the post season rotation, but Jon is running out of water to right the ship. Makes me wonder how Maddon will juggle things in October.