2016 Bears/NFL Thread?

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

This move is completely unexciting, but to overreact and be angry about it? No, thanks.

If they don't draft a QB, I'll join you with the pitchforks.

Yep. They need a guy to play quarterback next year. Cutler wasn't going to be that guy. Glennon is a guy. It might as well be Glennon.

But they better draft a QB in the first three rounds. If they don't it's time to burn Halas Hall to the ground.

Honest question: why, exactly, was Cutler never going to be that guy?  I mean I know that the fans hate him and he's been a disappointment, on balance, but what would've been the harm in having him come back?  He's actually better than Glennon, if that sort of thing means anything anymore.

[Tony]

This move is completely unexciting, but to overreact and be angry about it? No, thanks.

If they don't draft a QB, I'll join you with the pitchforks.

Yep. They need a guy to play quarterback next year. Cutler wasn't going to be that guy. Glennon is a guy. It might as well be Glennon.

But they better draft a QB in the first three rounds. If they don't it's time to burn Halas Hall to the ground.

Honest question: why, exactly, was Cutler never going to be that guy?  I mean I know that the fans hate him and he's been a disappointment, on balance, but what would've been the harm in having him come back?  He's actually better than Glennon, if that sort of thing means anything anymore.

Because I assume the decision makers think he's a penis and they're sick of him. I wouldn't care either way. I still like him, but I'm also sick of the same old story. Either way the only QB that matters is who they draft. And I'm not sure it matters if Cutler or Glennon are any good anyway. Maybe it's better to be really bad one more year.

[Chuck to Chuck]

This move is completely unexciting, but to overreact and be angry about it? No, thanks.

If they don't draft a QB, I'll join you with the pitchforks.

Yep. They need a guy to play quarterback next year. Cutler wasn't going to be that guy. Glennon is a guy. It might as well be Glennon.

But they better draft a QB in the first three rounds. If they don't it's time to burn Halas Hall to the ground.

Honest question: why, exactly, was Cutler never going to be that guy?  I mean I know that the fans hate him and he's been a disappointment, on balance, but what would've been the harm in having him come back?  He's actually better than Glennon, if that sort of thing means anything anymore.

Because K Cut is a anti-vax loon and puts Pace's kids at risk.

[PenFoe]

I know that nobody cares anymore, but Mike Glennon is pretty bad and this isn't going to go well.

If we're fortunate, the team really sucks this year, an inevitable housecleaning from Phillips on down is evident around Halloween, around which time Virginia passes peacefully. Her ten children at different stages in life, different goals, different interests, and different liquidity statuses might be willing to listen to an ego-driven billionaire who could make a lot of their problems go away and truly allow the Bears to rebuild correctly.

(On the downside, the first phone call I'd expect a smart owner to make upon buying the Bears would be to 773-404-2827, pressing # for the dial by name directory, and then the numbers 3-7-7-8-3-4-6. It's not without precedent.)

Realistically, the defense should be a shade better, and the team will go 5-11 with some marked improvement on the defensive side of the ball, possibly 7-9 if the running game does anything. Fox is probably gone, but Pace probably survives, and Ted Phillips and the rest of the real brass stay.

The Bears regime from 1986 until today (31 years and counting) in which the McCaskeys clearly have run the show has to be the worst-run period of any franchise in Chicago history, and that includes P.K. Wrigley's Cubs and Bill Wirtz's Blackhawks.

Pretty much the only hope is that they still draft DeShaun Watson the top QB on their draft board even with the Glennon signing and he fairly-miraculously turns out to be awesome.

But that won't happen.

They'll get a stud defender instead and he'll probably be good but they'll be bad.

FYPF

[CubFaninHydePark]

Had the assholes found a way to roll over to the 49ers last season, they could've had Trubinsky without giving up anything.  I know the 49ers were wretched, and someone has to win, but why last year's team played to win that late in the season is mind boggling.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Had the assholes found a way to roll over to the 49ers last season, they could've had Trubinsky without giving up anything.  I know the 49ers were wretched, and someone has to win, but why last year's team played to win that late in the season is mind boggling.

Caveat that this has nothing to do with one's ability to enjoy sports any more than anyone else, but it seems obvious to me that you've never actually played SPORTS.  Just an observation.

[Yeti]

Had the assholes found a way to roll over to the 49ers last season, they could've had Trubinsky without giving up anything.  I know the 49ers were wretched, and someone has to win, but why last year's team played to win that late in the season is mind boggling.

Caveat that this has nothing to do with one's ability to enjoy sports any more than anyone else, but it seems obvious to me that you've never actually played SPORTS.  Just an observation.

No, those players on the field should have definitely thought about the draft, and thought "meh, let's be awful so they can draft someone to replace me"

[SKO]

Had the assholes found a way to roll over to the 49ers last season, they could've had Trubinsky without giving up anything.  I know the 49ers were wretched, and someone has to win, but why last year's team played to win that late in the season is mind boggling.

Caveat that this has nothing to do with one's ability to enjoy sports any more than anyone else, but it seems obvious to me that you've never actually played SPORTS.  Just an observation.

No, those players on the field should have definitely thought about the draft, and thought "meh, let's be awful so they can draft someone to replace me"

Matt Barkley started that game and threw a whopping 18 passes. They ran the ball 40 times with a rookie runningback. I could not pick any of the four leading receivers for the Bears in that game out of a lineup. They WERE tanking, the 49ers were just better at it. They couldn't have lost that game if they had wanted to, and they probably did. 

[Chuck to Chuck]

Had the assholes found a way to roll over to the 49ers last season, they could've had Trubinsky without giving up anything.  I know the 49ers were wretched, and someone has to win, but why last year's team played to win that late in the season is mind boggling.

Caveat that this has nothing to do with one's ability to enjoy sports any more than anyone else, but it seems obvious to me that you've never actually played SPORTS.  Just an observation.

No, those players on the field should have definitely thought about the draft, and thought "meh, let's be awful so they can draft someone to replace me"

Matt Barkley started that game and threw a whopping 18 passes. They ran the ball 40 times with a rookie runningback. I could not pick any of the four leading receivers for the Bears in that game out of a lineup. They WERE tanking, the 49ers were just better at it. They couldn't have lost that game if they had wanted to, and they probably did. 

Yep. Gabbert threw 10 passes. Hyde only ran 20 times. I do question why the Bears gave Howard 32 carries and Langford only 1. Giving Langford the ball more would have been a far better tanking strategy.

[Yeti]

So, we are just assuming that John Fox was going to purposely lose? And what would people have said if the Bears/Niners game turned into this: http://www.espn.com/olympics/summer/2012/badminton/story/_/id/8221408/2012-london-olympics-eight-badminton-players-disqualified-trying-lose-matches

[Yeti]

Also, the 49ers were better at tanking?
They kicked a 50yd FG the following week to tie the Jets with 30 seconds left. They ultimately lost in Overtime, but they were supposedly the team "trying" to tank, and barely lost a game.

And then they lost by 2 points to Seattle in the final game of the season. They're great at tanking

Maybe they ran Hyde 20 times against the Bears and only passed 15 times (10 BG, 5 CK) because the Bears run defense was atrocious and the Bears pass defense was better than average. A tanking team should have passed more if they were truly trying to lose. Also, Gabbert didn't play until the 4th quarter and attempted 10 passes. Any team trying to win would pass heavily when they're down in the 4th quarter... And why's that? They're trying to come back.

I don't think you really demonstrated that the 49ers were "better" at tanking.

[SKO]

Also, the 49ers were better at tanking?
They kicked a 50yd FG the following week to tie the Jets with 30 seconds left. They ultimately lost in Overtime, but they were supposedly the team "trying" to tank, and barely lost a game.

And then they lost by 2 points to Seattle in the final game of the season. They're great at tanking

Maybe they ran Hyde 20 times against the Bears and only passed 15 times (10 BG, 5 CK) because the Bears run defense was atrocious and the Bears pass defense was better than average. A tanking team should have passed more if they were truly trying to lose. Also, Gabbert didn't play until the 4th quarter and attempted 10 passes. Any team trying to win would pass heavily when they're down in the 4th quarter... And why's that? They're trying to come back.

I don't think you really demonstrated that the 49ers were "better" at tanking.

For the purpose of clarity when I say "the Bears probably DID want/try to lose that game" I meant the braintrust,not the guys on the field. By "better at tanking" I just meant both teams fielded the shittiest roster they could and the 49ers was still worse. Tanking is a front office strategy, it's not on the players. Theo Epstein absolutely tanked by putting out a lineup where Junior Lake was the most viable option in LF, it's not like anyone expects Lake to go up there and K on purpose.

Once the game begins the tanking is irrelevant, you naturally want players to be competing to the best of their ability if only because they're impossibly to evaluate if they aren't, as you noted. Simply by fielding a lineup that features Matt Barkley at QB and Cameron Meredith as your #1 receiver, you are probably trying to tank, if that guy is better than the 49ers alternative, there's no one to blame there.

[Oleg]

You guys taking CFiHP seriously is way funnier than the reactions to the draft on Twitter.

[CBStew]

You guys taking CFiHP seriously is way funnier than the reactions to the draft on Twitter.

I thought his post was right on.

[Shooter]

You guys taking CFiHP seriously is way funnier than the reactions to the draft on Twitter.

I thought his post was right on.

Even the "Trubinsky" part?