Cubs 2017 Let's Win Two!

[Oleg]

Anybody interested at all in Verlander?

3 years left at 28 million per, Tigers supposedly considering selling. At that cost the prospects sent in return may be less important than the willingness to take on salary. The FA market is weak.

He was ass in 2014 but since coming back from injury in 2015 he's been very solid. Was outstanding this year (5.2 fWAR, 3.08 ERA, 3.48 FIP). His option for 2020 only vests if he's top 5 in Cy voting in 2019. So you either get hopefully 2 good years out of him in 2017-2018 and say goodbye after anything less than an elite 2019, or he's elite for three years and you see what happens in year four.

I have no idea if I'd do it or not. That's still a shit ton of cash for an arm with a lot of miles on it. But it's worth asking

Nope.  I'm good.

Jose Quintana.

More like it.

Or Archer.

[Quality Start Machine]

Anybody interested at all in Verlander?

3 years left at 28 million per, Tigers supposedly considering selling. At that cost the prospects sent in return may be less important than the willingness to take on salary. The FA market is weak.

He was ass in 2014 but since coming back from injury in 2015 he's been very solid. Was outstanding this year (5.2 fWAR, 3.08 ERA, 3.48 FIP). His option for 2020 only vests if he's top 5 in Cy voting in 2019. So you either get hopefully 2 good years out of him in 2017-2018 and say goodbye after anything less than an elite 2019, or he's elite for three years and you see what happens in year four.

I have no idea if I'd do it or not. That's still a shit ton of cash for an arm with a lot of miles on it. But it's worth asking

Nope.  I'm good.

Jose Quintana.

More like it.

Or Archer.

Re: Quintana...haven't the Sox said they don't want to trade with the Cubs?

[SKO]

Anybody interested at all in Verlander?

3 years left at 28 million per, Tigers supposedly considering selling. At that cost the prospects sent in return may be less important than the willingness to take on salary. The FA market is weak.

He was ass in 2014 but since coming back from injury in 2015 he's been very solid. Was outstanding this year (5.2 fWAR, 3.08 ERA, 3.48 FIP). His option for 2020 only vests if he's top 5 in Cy voting in 2019. So you either get hopefully 2 good years out of him in 2017-2018 and say goodbye after anything less than an elite 2019, or he's elite for three years and you see what happens in year four.

I have no idea if I'd do it or not. That's still a shit ton of cash for an arm with a lot of miles on it. But it's worth asking

Nope.  I'm good.

Jose Quintana.

More like it.

Or Archer.

Re: Quintana...haven't the Sox said they don't want to trade with the Cubs?

Yeah there are rumors that Reinsdorf would never allow it. If the Sox do trade Sale or Quintana (and it sounds like Reinsdorf/Williams still are at war with Hahn over whether they should or not), I'd bet on Boston, NY, or LA.

[Eli]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

[Eli]

DPD, but I wonder if the cachet Theo has after winning a World Series makes him more likely to just sit pat with this group or go off and do something crazy like empty out the farm for Trout.

[Oleg]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

Even if you add Eloy to Schwarber and the rest, I'm not sure it's enough.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

[Oleg]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

Same thing with Rizzo or Bryant. No options are off the table. But if they wouldn't part with him for Andrew Miller, I doubt any offer will be enough.

[Eli]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

Watch the CBA talks.

[Eli]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

Watch the CBA talks.

Are they on C-SPAN or ...

[Oleg]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

Watch the CBA talks.

I think it's kind of weird that you seem to be so sure about the DH coming to the NL.  I'm not the owners want it and I don't think the PA has enough motivation to rock that boat.  I'm all for it but I think it's much more of a long shot than you think.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

Watch the CBA talks.

I think it's kind of weird that you seem to be so sure about the DH coming to the NL.  I'm not the owners want it and I don't think the PA has enough motivation to rock that boat.  I'm all for it but I think it's much more of a long shot than you think.

The PA wouldn't want 15 more DHs, who will raise the average pay MLB players? The owners don't want more offense?

I think it's a much shorter shot, no offense.

[Tonker]

Fuck it, Soler, Almora, Candelario and Happ for Mike Trout.*

*yes, I know it's not enough. But if last week taught us anything, it's that no dream is too big.

I know you admitted it's not enough, but I still constantly wonder what would be enough. Maybe if you threw Schwarber into that package?

After his rehab and World Series, I'd be stunned if Schwarber isn't as untouchable as Rizzo or Bryant.

I think that's an emotional response.  I think if they get the right deal, he's definitely tradable.

I don't think GMs are as swayed by narratives as fans (at least I hope they aren't). He still doesn't have a clear position besides DH and that dings his value.

He definitely shouldn't be as untouchable as Bryant and Rizzo, who are similarly good hitters and provide plus value in every facet of the game.

Watch the CBA talks.

I think it's kind of weird that you seem to be so sure about the DH coming to the NL.  I'm not the owners want it and I don't think the PA has enough motivation to rock that boat.  I'm all for it but I think it's much more of a long shot than you think.

I'M ALSO NOT THE OWNERS WANT IT, AND NEITHER IS MY WIFE.