2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE

[SKO]

It's gotten so bad that last night I wound up arguing with some clown who is convinced the Cubs need Lance Lynn.

I would consider this offseason a failure if the Cubs walk out of it without at least Alex Cobb, but I'd rather start Montgomery than Lynn. Lynn's peripherals last year were absolutely terrifying (3.43 ERA with a 4.82 FIP, career low K% and career high BB and line drive %) and his ERA was nothing more than the latest example of Cardinals Devil Magic.

[Saul Goodman]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

[SKO]

It's gotten so bad that last night I wound up arguing with some clown who is convinced the Cubs need Lance Lynn.

I would consider this offseason a failure if the Cubs walk out of it without at least Alex Cobb, but I'd rather start Montgomery than Lynn. Lynn's peripherals last year were absolutely terrifying (3.43 ERA with a 4.82 FIP, career low K% and career high BB and line drive %) and his ERA was nothing more than the latest example of Cardinals Devil Magic.

This offseason is not  failure. Let's do this

[D. Doluntap]

Fuck yeah. Let the Chris Gimenez era begin!

[CBStew]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

[Canadouche]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

Me too, but he clearly wanted to be gone. Looks like we'll see him in October.

[SKO]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

Me too, but he clearly wanted to be gone. Looks like we'll see him in October.

I don't think he wanted to be gone, I think he wants to be paid as the guy who was a top 5 pitcher over the last four seasons but the Cubs more than anyone got to take a good close up look at his drop in velocity and figured 2018-2023 Jake is not going to be as good of a bet as 2018-2023 Darvish

[Tonker]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

Actually, Fangraphs has it more like:

1. Quintana (4.9 zWAR)
2. Yood Arvish (4.0)
3. Lester (3.5)
4. Hendricks (3.2)
5. Chatwood (1.7)

... on which basis, the Cubs have added their top two starters in the last six months.  EPSTINK IS TERRIBLE.

Arrieta is projected for 3.0 zWAR and Johnny Longball just 1.6, by the way.

[D. Doluntap]

Also Smyly (wow that's really how it's spelled) will be ready in August. Pretty fucking solid offseason. I am cool with "the plan" again.

[SKO]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

Actually, Fangraphs has it more like:

1. Quintana (4.9 zWAR)
2. Yood Arvish (4.0)
3. Lester (3.5)
4. Hendricks (3.2)
5. Chatwood (1.7)

... on which basis, the Cubs have added their top two starters in the last six months.  EPSTINK IS TERRIBLE.

Arrieta is projected for 3.0 zWAR and Johnny Longball just 1.6, by the way.

Also WAR consistently underrates Hendricks anyway bc it refuses to believe his success is legitimate since he doesn't have a gaudy FIP, but he's done it for almost four years now so

[CBStew]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

Actually, Fangraphs has it more like:

1. Quintana (4.9 zWAR)
2. Yood Arvish (4.0)
3. Lester (3.5)
4. Hendricks (3.2)
5. Chatwood (1.7)

... on which basis, the Cubs have added their top two starters in the last six months.  EPSTINK IS TERRIBLE.

Arrieta is projected for 3.0 zWAR and Johnny Longball just 1.6, by the way.

Also WAR consistently underrates Hendricks anyway bc it refuses to believe his success is legitimate since he doesn't have a gaudy FIP, but he's done it for almost four years now so

Yooda Vish?

[Canadouche]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

Me too, but he clearly wanted to be gone. Looks like we'll see him in October.

I don't think he wanted to be gone, I think he wants to be paid as the guy who was a top 5 pitcher over the last four seasons but the Cubs more than anyone got to take a good close up look at his drop in velocity and figured 2018-2023 Jake is not going to be as good of a bet as 2018-2023 Darvish

He apparently listed his house the day the season ended. He either wanted to be gone, or simply knew he wasn't going to be back.

[Brownie]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

Me too, but he clearly wanted to be gone. Looks like we'll see him in October.

I don't think he wanted to be gone, I think he wants to be paid as the guy who was a top 5 pitcher over the last four seasons but the Cubs more than anyone got to take a good close up look at his drop in velocity and figured 2018-2023 Jake is not going to be as good of a bet as 2018-2023 Darvish

He apparently listed his house the day the season ended. He either wanted to be gone, or simply knew he wasn't going to be back.

He rented that house.

[Canadouche]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

I am going to miss Arrieta.

Me too, but he clearly wanted to be gone. Looks like we'll see him in October.

I don't think he wanted to be gone, I think he wants to be paid as the guy who was a top 5 pitcher over the last four seasons but the Cubs more than anyone got to take a good close up look at his drop in velocity and figured 2018-2023 Jake is not going to be as good of a bet as 2018-2023 Darvish

He apparently listed his house the day the season ended. He either wanted to be gone, or simply knew he wasn't going to be back.

He rented that house.

Apparently the Cubs made a significant offer to Arrieta, that he turned down, before they signed Darvish.

[Shooter]

FUCKING FINALLY.

1. Lester
2. Darvish
3. Hendricks
4. Quintana
5. Chatwood

That's more like it.

Actually, Fangraphs has it more like:

1. Quintana (4.9 zWAR)
2. Yood Arvish (4.0)
3. Lester (3.5)
4. Hendricks (3.2)
5. Chatwood (1.7)

... on which basis, the Cubs have added their top two starters in the last six months.  EPSTINK IS TERRIBLE.

Arrieta is projected for 3.0 zWAR and Johnny Longball just 1.6, by the way.

Also WAR consistently underrates Hendricks anyway bc it refuses to believe his success is legitimate since he doesn't have a gaudy FIP, but he's done it for almost four years now so

Yooda Vish?

Darvanzo beans