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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #120 on: December 12, 2017, 10:13:09 AM »
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 09:19:30 AM

Yeah but they weren't trading Giancarlo Stanton, they were trading his contract. the Cubs could have offered Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo and the Marlins would have taken the Yankees offer because the 265 million dollars was all they gave a shit about.


I know you're just trying to make a point, but any team that wouldn't take an elite 1B who has 4 years/$47 million left on his deal, and a player who is entering his first arbitration year after three years where his worst season was a 6.5 WAR should have their franchise revoked.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #121 on: December 12, 2017, 10:42:16 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 12, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 09:19:30 AM

Yeah but they weren't trading Giancarlo Stanton, they were trading his contract. the Cubs could have offered Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo and the Marlins would have taken the Yankees offer because the 265 million dollars was all they gave a shit about.


I know you're just trying to make a point, but any team that wouldn't take an elite 1B who has 4 years/$47 million left on his deal, and a player who is entering his first arbitration year after three years where his worst season was a 6.5 WAR should have their franchise revoked.

I absolutely think the Marlins should have their franchise revoked, yes, but seriously the Marlins straight up admitted they were offered better prospects for Stanton but they had to dump the salary no matter what. The Dodgers offered legitimate prospects but were only willing to eat about half the cash, so he got traded to NY for nothing other than money, basically. The Cubs straight up could have offered Bryant and Rizzo but if they weren't willing to eat more money than the Yankees nothing was going to happen. The Marlins have been told to slash payroll from 115 million (which was already 20th in the league) to 55 million, where the Rays and the rebuilding Brewers were.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #122 on: December 12, 2017, 03:15:40 PM »
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 12, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 09:19:30 AM

Yeah but they weren't trading Giancarlo Stanton, they were trading his contract. the Cubs could have offered Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo and the Marlins would have taken the Yankees offer because the 265 million dollars was all they gave a shit about.


I know you're just trying to make a point, but any team that wouldn't take an elite 1B who has 4 years/$47 million left on his deal, and a player who is entering his first arbitration year after three years where his worst season was a 6.5 WAR should have their franchise revoked.

I absolutely think the Marlins should have their franchise revoked, yes, but seriously the Marlins straight up admitted they were offered better prospects for Stanton but they had to dump the salary no matter what. The Dodgers offered legitimate prospects but were only willing to eat about half the cash, so he got traded to NY for nothing other than money, basically. The Cubs straight up could have offered Bryant and Rizzo but if they weren't willing to eat more money than the Yankees nothing was going to happen. The Marlins have been told to slash payroll from 115 million (which was already 20th in the league) to 55 million, where the Rays and the rebuilding Brewers were.

So Stanton is out of the NL and he rejected the Cardinals (semi) publicly.

This all works for me!
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #123 on: December 12, 2017, 05:52:52 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on December 12, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 12, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 09:19:30 AM

Yeah but they weren't trading Giancarlo Stanton, they were trading his contract. the Cubs could have offered Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo and the Marlins would have taken the Yankees offer because the 265 million dollars was all they gave a shit about.


I know you're just trying to make a point, but any team that wouldn't take an elite 1B who has 4 years/$47 million left on his deal, and a player who is entering his first arbitration year after three years where his worst season was a 6.5 WAR should have their franchise revoked.

I absolutely think the Marlins should have their franchise revoked, yes, but seriously the Marlins straight up admitted they were offered better prospects for Stanton but they had to dump the salary no matter what. The Dodgers offered legitimate prospects but were only willing to eat about half the cash, so he got traded to NY for nothing other than money, basically. The Cubs straight up could have offered Bryant and Rizzo but if they weren't willing to eat more money than the Yankees nothing was going to happen. The Marlins have been told to slash payroll from 115 million (which was already 20th in the league) to 55 million, where the Rays and the rebuilding Brewers were.

So Stanton is out of the NL and he rejected the Cardinals (semi) publicly.

This all works for me!

Yeah, ultimately, I can't complain.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #124 on: December 13, 2017, 08:15:53 AM »
I like the Drew Smyly signing. He costs almost nothing, and the Cubs have what amounts to a minor league LH pitcher sho will be ready for 2019.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #125 on: December 13, 2017, 08:20:02 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 13, 2017, 08:15:53 AM
I like the Drew Smyly signing. He costs almost nothing, and the Cubs have what amounts to a minor league LH pitcher sho will be ready for 2019.

He's the new Ryan Dempster!

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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #126 on: December 13, 2017, 08:54:00 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 13, 2017, 08:20:02 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 13, 2017, 08:15:53 AM
I like the Drew Smyly signing. He costs almost nothing, and the Cubs have what amounts to a minor league LH pitcher sho will be ready for 2019.

He's the new Ryan Dempster!

As long as he's not the new Scott Williamson

Or Scott Baker.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #127 on: December 14, 2017, 02:16:37 PM »

I positive the Steve Cishek signing.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #128 on: December 14, 2017, 09:36:17 PM »
Congratulations to Mikey M. on his newly earned degree from the Todd Walker School of Dispute Resolution. I'm sure the Cubs will immediately slot him into the rotation now. (But seriously, a six-man rotation would be worth trying.)
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #129 on: December 15, 2017, 09:19:42 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on December 12, 2017, 03:15:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 10:42:16 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 12, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on December 12, 2017, 09:19:30 AM

Yeah but they weren't trading Giancarlo Stanton, they were trading his contract. the Cubs could have offered Kris Bryant and Anthony Rizzo and the Marlins would have taken the Yankees offer because the 265 million dollars was all they gave a shit about.


I know you're just trying to make a point, but any team that wouldn't take an elite 1B who has 4 years/$47 million left on his deal, and a player who is entering his first arbitration year after three years where his worst season was a 6.5 WAR should have their franchise revoked.

I absolutely think the Marlins should have their franchise revoked, yes, but seriously the Marlins straight up admitted they were offered better prospects for Stanton but they had to dump the salary no matter what. The Dodgers offered legitimate prospects but were only willing to eat about half the cash, so he got traded to NY for nothing other than money, basically. The Cubs straight up could have offered Bryant and Rizzo but if they weren't willing to eat more money than the Yankees nothing was going to happen. The Marlins have been told to slash payroll from 115 million (which was already 20th in the league) to 55 million, where the Rays and the rebuilding Brewers were.

So Stanton is out of the NL and he rejected the Cardinals (semi) publicly.

This all works for me!

As someone on Twitter pointed out, he trashed the Marlins on his way out the door, but would still rather have played there than St. Louis.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #130 on: December 15, 2017, 01:53:27 PM »
2018 "Los Angeles" Angels of Anaheim
C Maldonado (R)
1B Pujols/Cron/Marte (R/R/R)
2B Kinsler (R)
SS Simmons (R)
3B Cozart (R)
LF Upton (R)
CF Trout (R)
RF Calhoun (L)
DH Ohtani/Pujols (L/R)

So the Angels have decided to honor their Orange County home and except for a couple token lefties go full alt-right?
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #131 on: December 15, 2017, 03:44:48 PM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on December 15, 2017, 01:53:27 PM
2018 "Los Angeles" Angels of Anaheim
C Maldonado (R)
1B Pujols/Cron/Marte (R/R/R)
2B Kinsler (R)
SS Simmons (R)
3B Cozart (R)
LF Upton (R)
CF Trout (R)
RF Calhoun (L)
DH Ohtani/Pujols (L/R)

So the Angels have decided to honor their Orange County home and except for a couple token lefties go full alt-right?

I'm sure that signing the 32 year old Cozart (who is coming off the best year of his life by a couple wins) won't bite them in the ass at all.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #133 on: December 18, 2017, 08:40:28 AM »
Quote from: D. Doluntap on December 15, 2017, 05:05:58 PM
This would be fun.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/12/15/enormous-grain-of-salt-report-out-of-japan-seems-to-suggest-cubs-are-in-on-yu-darvish/

If the reports from this weekend are true and Cobb is really looking for $20 mildo, the Cubs might as well go the extra distance and get Darvish.
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Re: 2017-2018 Cubs/MLB Offseason: HOT FUCKING STOVE
« Reply #134 on: December 18, 2017, 10:10:26 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on December 18, 2017, 08:40:28 AM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on December 15, 2017, 05:05:58 PM
This would be fun.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2017/12/15/enormous-grain-of-salt-report-out-of-japan-seems-to-suggest-cubs-are-in-on-yu-darvish/

If the reports from this weekend are true and Cobb is really looking for $20 mildo, the Cubs might as well go the extra distance and get Darvish.

Jesus...seriously?  Cobb thinks he's worth 120?  Yeah, at half that cost, I'd buy.